So You Still Think Bush Lied....

[slamminshaun]

Hey, I'm catching up for lost time here. I just got my DSL back today. I found a collection of quotes that were rather amusing considering what these same people say now. Interesting how many of these quotes are prior to Bush taking office.

"Without question we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator leading an impressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he's miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction." John Kerry, January 23rd, 2003

"If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." -- Bill Clinton, February 17th, 1998

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and the security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction." -- Madeleine Albright, February 1st, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again as he has ten times since 1983." -- Sandy Berger, Clinton national security advisor, February 18th, 1998

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress and consistent with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions, including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." That from a letter to President Clinton signed by Senators Carl Levin, Diane Feinstein, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, October 9th, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region, and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16th, 1998

"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." -- Madeleine Albright, Clinton's secretary of state, November 10th, 1999

"We begin with a common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations, is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Senator Carl Levin (D-MI), September 19th, 2002

"We know that he has stored nuclear supplies, secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." -- Al Gore, September 23rd, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter, and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, September 23rd, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27th, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of '98. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons." -- Robert Byrd (D-WV) October 3rd, 2002.

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has and has had for a number of years a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Senator Bob Graham, Democrat, Florida, December 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock. His missile delivery capability, his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists including Al-Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." -- Senator Hillary Clinton, October 10th of 2002

"There was unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. We also should remember that we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- Senator Jay Rockefeller, October 10th, 2002

"I will be voting to give the president of the US the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- Senator John Kerry, October 9th, 2002

I guess EVERYBODY lied.

[all4tribal]

bush is still our president? i thought he was up in the Most Wanted Top 10 list ???

[web_norah]

so Shaun tell us how you really feel about Lewis Libby and Dick Cheney?


enough of this Bush b-shit, noone wants to talk about that, the indictment is the HOT topic in politics.

[slamminshaun]

Originally Posted by web_norah

so Shaun tell us how you really feel about Lewis Libby and Dick Cheney?


enough of this Bush b-shit, noone wants to talk about that, the indictment is the HOT topic in politics.

I'll talk about anything political you want Norah. Let me get this straight, Libby committed no crime, but now faces 30 years in prison for lying about the source of the information he used to commit no crime. Seems fair to me!

I know a former President who also lied to a grand jury about something that wasn't a crime and liberals ran to his rescue. Now all of a sudden, liberals are concerned about lying to grand juries about things that weren't crimes to begin with? Not sure why this is such a "HOT" topic.

You know what I find more interesting? The fact that this guy is being demonized for "outing" a CIA operative, yet, the Washington Post today outed the locations of an entire network of secret CIA prisons but liberals don't seem to care about that.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110101644.html

[JMT]

who really gives a crap. no one even knew who this libby character was or even existed until this. like bcn says, zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

[web_norah]

Originally Posted by Slammin'

[quote author=web_norah link=board=6;threadid=21824;start=0#msg258773 date=1130976479]
so Shaun tell us how you really feel about Lewis Libby and Dick Cheney?


enough of this Bush b-shit, noone wants to talk about that, the indictment is the HOT topic in politics.

I'll talk about anything political you want Norah. Let me get this straight, Libby committed no crime, but now faces 30 years in prison for lying about the source of the information he used to commit no crime. Seems fair to me!

I know a former President who also lied to a grand jury about something that wasn't a crime and liberals ran to his rescue. Now all of a sudden, liberals are concerned about lying to grand juries about things that weren't crimes to begin with? Not sure why this is such a "HOT" topic.

You know what I find more interesting? The fact that this guy is being demonized for "outing" a CIA operative, yet, the Washington Post today outed the locations of an entire network of secret CIA prisons but liberals don't seem to care about that.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110101644.html


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in that case, if Libby is innocent, so was Judith Miller, yet she still served time for not giving up her source.

don't bring up Clinton, he has nothing to do with Rove, Libby or Judith Miller and the famous WMD....that's a weak argument.

[slamminshaun]

Originally Posted by web_norah

in that case, if Libby is innocent, so was Judith Miller, yet she still served time for not giving up her source.

don't bring up Clinton, he has nothing to do with Rove, Libby or Judith Miller and the famous WMD....that's a weak argument.

Libby's not innocent and neither was she. He lied to a grand jury, she refused to talk to one. As far as Bill goes, there's nothing weak about comparing two people who lied to a grand jury and how each of them were treated differently by the liberal media machine.

I'm just laughing my ass off because you know damn well you liberals were praying for Karl Rove, Cheney, and everyone else to get indicted. But it didn't happen!! All you've got is someone nobody cares about lying to a grand jury.....wow!!

[web_norah]

Judith Miller didn't refuse to talk, she talked ...get your info correctly, she declined to give the source that helped her write that op-ed article for the NYT, that's a very different thing....

journalists tend to protect their sources, it is called ethics Shaun. a good reporter digs the truth, and publishes it without taking sides no matter what people in the higher ranks with clearances might say/ feel, and thats what Miller did ..

i am not laughing about anything ...i think it is very sad actually

but sooner or later, it was going to come out, and it did. Bush's people knew it all along.......

[slamminshaun]

Originally Posted by web_norah

journalists tend to protect their sources, it is called ethics Shaun. .

And what was Jayson Blair's source that he so ethically protected? Oh wait, he made up his sources (and stories) out of mid-air. Point is, if the grand jury wants to know your source, you tell them.

But let's face it, she wasn't doing this to protect her source. She did it to preserve having a high-ranking official at the White House feeding her information.

[web_norah]

no you don't tell them ...it is called ethics ---- albeit, we already know ethics is a widely loose term in the eyes of our government.


the thing is, now we know she didn't make anything up....and that's where Libby and Cheney will get their heads cut off...... stay tuned.