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Old 03-18-2006, 06:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Under this new law, you can't even smoke in your own backyard....WTF? You're not allowed to walk up the street smoking a cigarette because someone might be exposed to your second-hand smoke. But its ok for the city to operate a gas-guzzling bus, exposing those same citizens to deadly emissions and greenhouse gases.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...amp;id=4001365

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Old 03-18-2006, 08:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Davis Ca has a similar back....welcome to CA land of the free of smoking.
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Old 03-19-2006, 01:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Under this new law, you can't even smoke in your own backyard....WTF? You're not allowed to walk up the street smoking a cigarette because someone might be exposed to your second-hand smoke. But its ok for the city to operate a gas-guzzling bus, exposing those same citizens to deadly emissions and greenhouse gases.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...amp;id=4001365

WAIT WAIT WAIT..HOLD UP....HELL HAS FROZEN OVER PEOPLE!!

SHAUN ADMITS THAT GAS GUZZLING VEHICLES EXPOSE PEOPLE TO DEADLY EMISSIONS AND GREENHOUSE GASES........WTF???
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Old 03-19-2006, 06:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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[quote author=Slammin' Shaun link=board=6;threadid=26225;start=0#msg304938 date=1142721972]
Under this new law, you can't even smoke in your own backyard....WTF? You're not allowed to walk up the street smoking a cigarette because someone might be exposed to your second-hand smoke. But its ok for the city to operate a gas-guzzling bus, exposing those same citizens to deadly emissions and greenhouse gases.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...amp;id=4001365

WAIT WAIT WAIT..HOLD UP....HELL HAS FROZEN OVER PEOPLE!!

SHAUN ADMITS THAT GAS GUZZLING VEHICLES EXPOSE PEOPLE TO DEADLY EMISSIONS AND GREENHOUSE GASES........WTF???
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LOL terry!! for real though.... good point shaun. it's the same thing.
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Old 03-20-2006, 12:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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[quote author=Slammin' Shaun link=board=6;threadid=26225;start=0#msg304938 date=1142721972]
Under this new law, you can't even smoke in your own backyard....WTF? You're not allowed to walk up the street smoking a cigarette because someone might be exposed to your second-hand smoke. But its ok for the city to operate a gas-guzzling bus, exposing those same citizens to deadly emissions and greenhouse gases.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...amp;id=4001365

WAIT WAIT WAIT..HOLD UP....HELL HAS FROZEN OVER PEOPLE!!

SHAUN ADMITS THAT GAS GUZZLING VEHICLES EXPOSE PEOPLE TO DEADLY EMISSIONS AND GREENHOUSE GASES........WTF???
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Not so fast my SUV-hatin' friend. I never once said you could lock yourself in a garage and leave the car running and be okay. I would, however, argue that you could lock yourself in a garage with a chain-smoker for three hours and leave with nothing more then stinky clothes. Does this new law apply to second-hand smoke coming off a BBQ grill?

So which is more dangerous? Second-hand smoke or exhaust fumes? To outlaw second-hand smoke outdoors is amusing in a city that has public bussing. You can't stick your mouth around a tail-pipe and expect to be able to live to tell about it...

This thread was meant to be amusing, but make no mistake, Florida will eventually attempt to pass such laws.
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So which is more dangerous? Second-hand smoke or exhaust fumes?
This is not an "OR" question. See, right now we are exposed to both cigarrette smoke and exhaust fumes. Take one of those away and it is better. Taking both away is best, of course.

[quote author=Slammin' Shaun link=board=6;threadid=26225;start=0#msg305271 date=1142872136]
This thread was meant to be amusing, but make no mistake, Florida will eventually attempt to pass such laws.
[/quote]And I will be the first one in line to vote for it. I see no reason that cigarette smoking should be legal.
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And I will be the first one in line to vote for it. I see no reason that cigarette smoking should be legal.
LOL, and how about BBQ's? Should it also be illegal to cook on a BBQ grill? I mean, with electric ranges and microwaves, there's really no reason why someone needs a second hand smoke-producing BBQ grill.
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And I will be the first one in line to vote for it. I see no reason that cigarette smoking should be legal.
LOL, and how about BBQ's? Should it also be illegal to cook on a BBQ grill? I mean, with electric ranges and microwaves, there's really no reason why someone needs a second hand smoke-producing BBQ grill.
[/quote]Currently BBQ grilling seems to be under control. People do it fairly rarely (compared to cigarette smoking), and generally contain it to very small, very specific areas. But cigarette smokers nearly ruined GG for me, yesterday. If they kept it to themselves, that would be something different, but they don't.

And, just to be fair, if they placed a referrendum restricting all vehicle emissions to non-lethal, non-poluting gases, I would also be the first in line to vote for it, even though it would cost me money.
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Old 03-20-2006, 01:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
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But I thought you just said ALL cigarette smoking should be outlawed. Now your saying its ok for BBQ's because they happen to be contained.....which is it? This law that was passed makes it illegal to smoke a cigarette in your own backyard. What makes this different then a BBQ? I would argue a BBQ lets off much more hazardous smoke then a cigarette....what if someone BBQ's everyday? Do they get a special citation for BBQ'ing too much? I can smell my neighbor's BBQ 1/2 mile up the street, but hell if I know when he lights up a cigarette in his backyard....
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Old 03-20-2006, 02:41 PM   #10 (permalink)
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It's a wierd law. So basically the only place you can smoke is in your house, thus exposing who ever lives in the house to the second smoke.

It makes no sense. I don't smoke but you should be able to smoke in your own back yard.

Maybe this law would make more sense if it banned smoking from outside resturaunts, bus stops etc...where people gather.

I hate it when I go to Lincoln road with my family for lunch and eat outside when there's someone smoking next to your table... :-X

They should just ban cigarettes all together. Thousands of people die from heart and lung cancer caused by smoking thus incrreasing the cost of health care for the rest of us people who don't smoke. (I smoke only when I drink which is like 2 or 3 times a year so I don't fall into this category).

Cigarettes (nicotine) is also usually the first drug that kids take, leading to pot and other drug that are worse..
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