I'm not a cop, but why would...

[V. Barbarino]

you try and arrest armed guards at a prison??? Here is a crazy idea, arrest them when they aren't armed!

I know I know it's a crazy idea, but maybe just maybe one of the Fed officers wouldn't be dead right now, if they used common sense...

The feds fucked this one up, big time!

[tres-b]

I read that the guards were not supposed to be armed. That mistake cost a Federal Agent his life.

[Slide On The Ice]

Originally Posted by Mr

you try and arrest armed guards at a prison??? Here is a crazy idea, arrest them when they aren't armed!

I know I know it's a crazy idea, but maybe just maybe one of the Fed officers wouldn't be dead right now, if they used common sense...

The feds fucked this one up, big time!

Sorry to sound ignorant, but I have not watched the news in the last few days. can you clarify what you're referring to? ???

[tres-b]

http://www.tallahasseedemocrat.com/a...606220344/1082

[NewFoundLive]

Or call a deptarment meeting with the supects. Round them up in an office and them storm in and arrest everybody.

[obby]

I would love to see pictures of these female inmates they were banging. Do you think they were hot enough to actually temp a guard?

[Slide On The Ice]

Originally Posted by tres-b

http://www.tallahasseedemocrat.com/a...606220344/1082

Thanks, but the link doesn't work.

[tres-b]

A team of agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation in Washington D.C., will begin an investigation today of a shootout Wednesday that left two people dead and one seriously injured at the Federal Correctional Institution.

"They will start first thing in the morning," said Michael Folmar, the FBI's special agent in charge in Jacksonville. "And they're the ones that are going to piece all of this together and put all the facts together."

The agents traveling to Tallahassee are part of the FBI's Shooting Incident Review Team.

At 7:42 a.m. Wednesday, shots rang out at the prison after agents with the FBI and the Department of Justice's Office of the Inspector General arrived to arrest six correctional officers. The officers were indicted Tuesday on multiple charges. The allegations against them include giving contraband to inmates in exchange for sex and intimidating inmates in an effort to cover up the scandal.

Five of the guards were arrested and taken into custody, but a sixth, Ralph Hill, used his personal handgun and shot at the agents, according to Scott Middlebrooks of the federal Bureau of Prisons. More gunfire ensued, and Hill was killed.

William "Buddy" Sentner, an agent with the Office of the Inspector General, also was killed. Sentner, in his mid-40s, was based in Orlando. He had a career spanning about 15 years, Folmar said.

A lieutenant with the Federal Bureau of Prisons was injured in the shooting and was taken to Tallahassee Memorial Hospital. He was listed in stable condition and is expected to recover. Officials said they were not releasing his name because not all family members had been notified.

The shooting began inside the lobby of the Federal Detention Center, adjacent to the correctional institution, and ended outside the center's doors, said John Newland, a spokesman for the Tallahassee Police Department. The detention center is a facility that houses men awaiting trial or awaiting transportation to another facility. The correctional institution houses low-security women.

The federal officers who had gone to arrest the guards apparently were not armed, Newland said.

"It was our understanding that law enforcement was not armed," he said, "because you're not allowed to bring a firearm onto federal grounds."

No inmates or civilians were involved in the shooting, and the complex was placed on lockdown and quickly declared secure.

Folmar said the guards were not aware of the federal indictment that had been handed down against them. In addition to Hill, those named in the indictment were Alfred Barnes, Gregory Dixon, Vincent Johnson, Alan Moore and E. Lavon Spence. All of the remaining guards except for Johnson were in the Wakulla County Jail. Johnson's location was unknown as of late Wednesday night.

"This arrest situation was done in a manner to be very controlled ... where nobody would have any weapons, and we could take this down so there wouldn't be any violence," Folmar said. "And this is exactly how it would be handled normally across the United States."

Folmar called it a "sad day" for law enforcement.

"These agents were out just trying to do their job, trying to do an arrest in a very controlled situation," he said. "And it just didn't go down exactly as planned."

Tallahassee police arrived on the scene within minutes, and their forensics team began processing the crime scene. Later, FBI agents arrived to go over the evidence at the scene. Newland said he was unaware of any similar shootings in his 18 years with TPD.

Allen Beck of the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics said that inmate assaults led to five staff deaths at federal and state correctional facilities from July 1, 1999, to June 30, 2000. The statistics are compiled every five years, and 2005 statistics are due by the end of the year. During the same time period in 1994 and 1995, there were 14 staff deaths.

The guards, with the exception of Johnson, were alleged to have had sex with inmates in exchange for contraband, according to the indictment. Johnson allegedly counseled an inmate not to cooperate with the investigation.

It wasn't the first time guards at the facility have been accused of having sex with an inmate. In 2000, K.P. Price was sentenced to probation in connection with charges that he had sex with and impregnated an inmate. The inmate later sued Price.

The Federal Correctional Institution in Tallahassee is along Capital Circle Northeast about 3 miles east of downtown. It is a low-security facility housing females. There is an adjacent Federal Detention Center that houses males who are awaiting trial or awaiting transportation to another prison. About 1,445 inmates are housed at both facilities.

[Slide On The Ice]

Thanks for posting it. That is a screwed up situation. I agree with Saleen. It was ridiculous for them to go in their unarmed to arrest men who were armed.