Oliver Stone is a nut job..

[V. Barbarino]

"If there had been a better sense of preparation, if we had a leadership that was more mature," he said. "We did not fight back in the same way that the British fought the IRA or the Spanish government fought the Basques here. Terrorism is a manageable action. It can be lived with," said Stone.


What a fucking jackass, we can live with terrorism???

[Mattivi]

that guy has done way too much butter in his day, anyone who takes this pookiehead serioulsy is a moron :P

[trancepriest]

Originally Posted by Barbarino

"We did not fight back in the same way that the British fought the IRA or the Spanish government fought the Basques here."

It seems to me he is proposing other ways to fight terrorism other than spending 600 billion dollars and going berzerk in the middle east.

[xmuzik]

terrorism in one form or another will always exist therefore in essence it cannot be eliminated ..... you have no real choice but to learn to do damage control on it and learn to live with it

[james stratus]

Originally Posted by trancepriest

[quote author=Barbarino link=board=6;threadid=32475;start=0#msg374623 date=1159544926]
"We did not fight back in the same way that the British fought the IRA or the Spanish government fought the Basques here."

It seems to me he is proposing other ways to fight terrorism other than spending 600 billion dollars and going berzerk in the middle east.
[/quote]

Neither apply to Islamic Terrorism. IRA terrorism on London in the 80's was to disrupt the economy and cause damage within London's infrastructure without taking lives to try and force the Brits out of Northern Ireland.. Mass killing wasn't their objective. The Basque situation in Spain has always been a fight for independence and was really ignited by the brutal Fascist Dictatorships through the 20th Century. Both situations were local and neither had anything to do with trying to take over the world like Radical Islam does.

[Mattivi]

Originally Posted by James

[quote author=trancepriest link=board=6;threadid=32475;start=0#msg374777 date=1159570254]
[quote author=Barbarino link=board=6;threadid=32475;start=0#msg374623 date=1159544926]
"We did not fight back in the same way that the British fought the IRA or the Spanish government fought the Basques here."

It seems to me he is proposing other ways to fight terrorism other than spending 600 billion dollars and going berzerk in the middle east.
[/quote]

Neither apply to Islamic Terrorism. IRA terrorism on London in the 80's was to disrupt the economy and cause damage within London's infrastructure without taking lives to try and force the Brits out of Northern Ireland.. Mass killing wasn't their objective. The Basque situation in Spain has always been a fight for independence and was really ignited by the brutal Fascist Dictatorships through the 20th Century. Both situations were local and neither had anything to do with trying to take over the world like Radical Islam does.
[/quote]

dont try to convince TP with your concise analysis. to him militant islam is the most benevolent thing going. simply, their right and were wrong james : the funny thing about the whole argument is that no one here is really arguing that bush has mucked this thing up and is handling this unconventional war in the wrong way. my only defense of bush that at least HE IS fighting back and not taking a passive stance. whats amazing to me is that some people on this forum actaully think that these fascist islamic freaks have the moral high ground. :P

[xmuzik]

yeah bush is really fighting back........ and your government really is looking out for your best intrest

[clubhopper10]

Yeah, Bush is fighting back.....against the wrong enemy. We should concentrate our efforts in Afghanistan (whereby it appears things are slipping out of control) instead of being stuck in a quagmire like we currently are in Iraq.

Afghanistan is the true battleground against terror; not Iraq.

[james stratus]

Originally Posted by Mattivi

[quote author=James Stratus link=board=6;threadid=32475;start=0#msg374858 date=1159604318]
[quote author=trancepriest link=board=6;threadid=32475;start=0#msg374777 date=1159570254]
[quote author=Barbarino link=board=6;threadid=32475;start=0#msg374623 date=1159544926]
"We did not fight back in the same way that the British fought the IRA or the Spanish government fought the Basques here."

It seems to me he is proposing other ways to fight terrorism other than spending 600 billion dollars and going berzerk in the middle east.
[/quote]

Neither apply to Islamic Terrorism. IRA terrorism on London in the 80's was to disrupt the economy and cause damage within London's infrastructure without taking lives to try and force the Brits out of Northern Ireland.. Mass killing wasn't their objective. The Basque situation in Spain has always been a fight for independence and was really ignited by the brutal Fascist Dictatorships through the 20th Century. Both situations were local and neither had anything to do with trying to take over the world like Radical Islam does.
[/quote]

dont try to convince TP with your concise analysis. to him militant islam is the most benevolent thing going. simply, their right and were wrong james : the funny thing about the whole argument is that no one here is really arguing that bush has mucked this thing up and is handling this unconventional war in the wrong way. my only defense of bush that at least HE IS fighting back and not taking a passive stance. whats amazing to me is that some people on this forum actaully think that these fascist islamic freaks have the moral high ground. :P
[/quote]

I am just pointing out that Carter is wrong in that aspect, and so is TP. I don;t think Carter was a bad president at all, but just had situations that he or anyone else couldn't resolve readily. I don't think Bush's administration is handling Terrorism the right way at all.