MLB: Hall of Fame

[JMT]

id like to know who the idiots are that didnt feel Gwynn and Ripken earned their vote.


Hall of Fame voting

Player Ballots received Pct.
Cal Ripken Jr. 537 98.5
Tony Gwynn 532 97.6



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

[lyrik]

There is only one guy that came out and identifed himself as turning in a blank ballot (forget his name) - his claim is that he wasn't voting for anyone that played during the "steroid era" until he had more info...whether they were suspected or not. Still there were others that just didn't turn in the ballot at all and didn't have the balls to come out identify themselves and then you have some of them that just state that no one should ever be inducted by a unanimous vote because thats just the standard set through-out baseball going back 70 years or something...stupid if you ask me.

[V. Barbarino]

If you don't vote you shouldn't be allowed to ever vote again. There is no reason why TG didn't get 100% or Ripken.

As for Big Mac, he got what I think he deserved.

[lyrik]

Originally Posted by Barbarino

If you don't vote you shouldn't be allowed to ever vote again. There is no reason why TG didn't get 100% or Ripken.

As for Big Mac, he got what I think he deserved.

My thoughts exactly - at least turn in the ballot! Their logic behind this all is that in the history of the MLB Hall of Fame no player has ever received 100% of the vote - so its basically an insult to the players that came before them already in the hall....still BS if you ask me.

[slamminshaun]

Originally Posted by Barbarino

If you don't vote you shouldn't be allowed to ever vote again. There is no reason why TG didn't get 100% or Ripken.

As for Big Mac, he got what I think he deserved.

Not even Babe Ruth got 100%...in fact, Ripken might have ended up in the Top 3 percentile of all time.

[swirlundergrounder]

Originally Posted by Barbarino

As for Big Mac, he got what I think he deserved.

So why did Big Mac get what he deserved??

He has never tested positive for steriods. Yet the NFL sends San Diego Chargers Shawn Merriman to the Pro Bowl the same year he tested positive for steriods..

That's really fucked up imo...

[xmuzik]

i think they should let mark in the hall of fame, also pete rose & shoeless joe jackson should be forgiven and allowed in. Especially shoeless jope jackson , i mean think about it the man is dead i think he's paid the penalty by now.

[slamminshaun]

Originally Posted by xmuzik

i think they should let mark in the hall of fame, also pete rose & shoeless joe jackson should be forgiven and allowed in. Especially shoeless jope jackson , i mean think about it the man is dead i think he's paid the penalty by now.

If I'm not mistaken, no hall of fame entry was agreed to by Pete Rose at the time to save his skin.

[JMT]

Originally Posted by T_rr_

[quote author=Barbarino link=board=6;threadid=35850;start=0#msg406613 date=1168467303]

As for Big Mac, he got what I think he deserved.

So why did Big Mac get what he deserved??

He has never tested positive for steriods. Yet the NFL sends San Diego Chargers Shawn Merriman to the Pro Bowl the same year he tested positive for steriods..

That's really fucked up imo...
[/quote]

the fans are the voters, and since when are fans known for being smart?

a key difference is that the foundation of baseball is stats, and stats are based in the individual. football is much more about wins and losses and overall team performance. but i do feel they should make a rule that if you violate the performance enhancing drug policy you are ineligible for the pro-bowl.

i think Mac got what he deserved. it might not have been against the rules of the time, but he lied under oath about it and still hasnt admitted it. admitting it will be the first step in some type of reconciliation.

[swirlundergrounder]

Originally Posted by JMT

[quote author=T_rr_ Ja_in_o link=board=6;threadid=35850;start=0#msg406698 date=1168484983]
[quote author=Barbarino link=board=6;threadid=35850;start=0#msg406613 date=1168467303]

As for Big Mac, he got what I think he deserved.

So why did Big Mac get what he deserved??

He has never tested positive for steriods. Yet the NFL sends San Diego Chargers Shawn Merriman to the Pro Bowl the same year he tested positive for steriods..

That's really fucked up imo...
[/quote]

the fans are the voters, and since when are fans known for being smart?

a key difference is that the foundation of baseball is stats, and stats are based in the individual. football is much more about wins and losses and overall team performance. but i do feel they should make a rule that if you violate the performance enhancing drug policy you are ineligible for the pro-bowl.

i think Mac got what he deserved. it might not have been against the rules of the time, but he lied under oath about it and still hasnt admitted it. admitting it will be the first step in some type of reconciliation.



[/quote]Even though the fans may have voted Merriman in the NFL ulitimetly has control as to who gets on the ballot and who gets selected.

They could have easily disquallified him for testing positive but yet they did nothing.

I thought that Big Mac admitted to taking Andro when it was not a banded substance.

Anyways whether he did it or not is not my gripe.

My gripe lays within pro sports itself allowing one player (who did test postive for steriods and was punished for it via suspension)to be recoginzed for his seasons achievements (the same year of his violation) and someone else who is accused of taking something be not recognized (whether Big Mac did or did not take a banned substance)..

Seems inconsistant to me even though both sports are different...

The NFL should have stepped in and did something..