Anybody Watch The GOP Debate?

[coach]

Reports???

[web_norah]

the final report: three of the candidates on the debate are already taking back some of their comments. typical GOP!! lol.

why can't people think before they make anti gay comments ? that was no slip-up.

[slamminshaun]

Originally Posted by web_norah

the final report: three of the candidates on the debate are already taking back some of their comments. typical GOP!! lol.

why can't people think before they make anti gay comments ? that was no slip-up.

Nice spin Norah, but I wouldn't say it was necessarily an anti-gay comment. First, you have to understand that gays are not a protected class under the Civil Rights Act. Same is true of fat people and smokers, both of whom are being legally discriminated against at work.

We had a debate on here a while back about whether its okay for employers to fire people if they find out they are smokers, regardless of whether they're smoking on their own time. You'd be surprised how many think (liberals even) that if the employer sets the ground rules ahead of time, then smokers have no right to fuss and should accept being fired. I am not one of those people!

I think Thompson's comments were fine, but I don't agree with them at all. I think sexual orientation should be a protected class, as should any lifestyle in general that does not harm one's ability to do a job (being fat, smoking, etc.).

As for the debate, McCain looked like he was nervous up there....Giuliani too. The only one who impressed me on the stage was Romney.

[web_norah]

Originally Posted by Slammin'

[quote author=web_norah link=board=6;threadid=39500;start=0#msg442032 date=1178364551]
the final report: three of the candidates on the debate are already taking back some of their comments. typical GOP!! lol.

why can't people think before they make anti gay comments ? that was no slip-up.

Nice spin Norah, but I wouldn't say it was necessarily an anti-gay comment. First, you have to understand that gays are not a protected class under the Civil Rights Act. Same is true of fat people and smokers, both of whom are being legally discriminated against at work.

We had a debate on here a while back about whether its okay for employers to fire people if they find out they are smokers, regardless of whether they're smoking on their own time. You'd be surprised how many think (liberals even) that if the employer sets the ground rules ahead of time, then smokers have no right to fuss and should accept being fired. I am not one of those people!

I think Thompson's comments were fine, but I don't agree with them at all. I think sexual orientation should be a protected class, as should any lifestyle in general that does not harm one's ability to do a job (being fat, smoking, etc.).

As for the debate, McCain looked like he was nervous up there....Giuliani too. The only one who impressed me on the stage was Romney.
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well his comment regarding gays didn't do him ANY favors ...think before you speak at a DEBATE with other opponents ! hello? and then the next day, he is taking it back?

sorry i don't buy it.

*ps you can't compare smoking to a CIVIL RIGHTS debate, that is a non issue

none of the candidates impressed me. Giuliani was lukewarm at best.

[slamminshaun]

Originally Posted by web_norah

well his comment regarding gays didn't do him ANY favors ...think before you speak at a DEBATE with other opponents ! hello? and then the next day, he is taking it back?

sorry i don't buy it.

I don't buy it either, but I thought the question was inappropriate. It had nothing to do with anything going on! There were so many other issues they could've asked him about, but they asked whether business owners should have the right to fire people if they're gay?

No matter what answer he would've given, it would've been the wrong answer. Either he'd be viewed as taking away private business owner rights, or he's taking away gay rights. There's no way to explain yourself in 30 seconds. It was a trap and I'd expect nothing less out of Matthews and his liberal friends at Politico.com.

In fact, there was a HUGE difference in the way Brian Williams and Chris Matthews moderated. I felt like I was watching Hardball where Matthews constantly took jabs at the candidates and threw them unfair, loaded questions....highly inappropriate for this type of forum. "What do you dislike most about America?" What the fuck kind of question is that???????

Brian Williams was professional, Chris Matthews was a typical San Francisco liberal asshole.

[quote author=web_norah link=board=6;threadid=39500;start=0#msg442044 date=1178374690]

*ps you can't compare smoking to a CIVIL RIGHTS debate, that is a non issue [/quote]

That's the point, gay rights is NOT a civil rights issue so why was the question posed as one? That may seem harsh, but I didn't write the Civil Rights Act. A stupid question will prompt a stupid response, especially when you only have 30 seconds to respond. Fat people are currently being fired for being fat with very little outrage from either side....what about them? Smokers are being fired for testing positive for nicotine; newsflash, smoking is NOT an illegal substance and does NOT impair someone's ability to do a job if they're doing it on their own time. What about them?

[quote author=web_norah link=board=6;threadid=39500;start=0#msg442044 date=1178374690]

none of the candidates impressed me. Giuliani was lukewarm at best.
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Giuliani was the one who needed to prove himself. He's alot like Hillary Clinton, good by himself in getting people worked up, but doesn't stand out when placed on a stage with others. Hillary had that problem in the Democrat debate.

Romney definitely helped himself. McCain didn't hurt or help himself. The others all just got tangled up in the web and don't have a chance anyway. The guy who won the debate, IMO, is the guy who didn't attend: Fred Thompson.

[web_norah]

Gay discrimination IS A CIVIL RIGHTS issue!

what is wrong with you? just because it is not written on a piece of paper doesn't mean it is not relevant or ok for an employer or anyone to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation. Bush himself supports anti discrimination measures, so why wouldn't this be a relevant issue for the next presidential candidate?

i am not discussing the obese or smoking issue because it was not part of the GOP debate.

why was the question inappropriate? it is a valid reasonable one.

[slamminshaun]

Originally Posted by web_norah

Gay discrimination IS A CIVIL RIGHTS issue!

what is wrong with you? just because it is not written on a piece of paper doesn't mean it is not relevant or ok for an employer or anyone to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation. Bush himself supports anti discrimination measures, so why wouldn't this be a relevant issue for the next presidential candidate?

i am not discussing the obese or smoking issue because it was not part of the GOP debate.

why was the question inappropriate? it is a valid reasonable one.

When I say Civil Rights issue, I'm referring to the law as it currently stands, not the way I think it should stand.

I made it pretty clear why the question was inappropriate. Because there is no way you can respond in 30 seconds to something like that and they knew it when they asked. And regardless of what you think, the law only protects people from being fired in the U.S. if its based on race, religion, disability, gender, age, etc....

Personally, I could support "lifestyle" being added as a protected class, whether you're gay, fat, or anything else that doesn't affect your ability to do a good job and is not illegal (like smoking). But again, what should be the case is not always the same as what is the case in this country.

[swirlundergrounder]

There was a GOP debate on TV??

Are you sure it's not going on here right now in this thread?

[slamminshaun]

Yep, believe it or not Terry, there was a GOP debate. In fact, it was moderated by one of the most liberal Republican-haters out there. Kudos to the GOP for not being cowards like the Democrats were with Fox News.

click here to read about how the Demz chickened out

If the Democrats are afraid of Fox News, how can we expect them to fight terrorists?

[coach]

Fox News is way worse than any terrorist.