How is THIS not a hate crime???

[slamminshaun]

ARTICLE (The Virginian-Pilot - HamptonRoads.com/PilotOnline.com)

[trancepriest]

If the white kid was attacked based on race (which it seems like). I'm all for them being charged with an hate crime. Black juvenile violence like this should be dealt with harshly... just as if it was whites perpetuating the same act against a black person. In the case of the Jena 6... I'm all for a fair legal trial.... not by a jury of all whites.

[drlogic]

well said TP...I'm with ya' there too!

The Jena6 guys are criminals (with a document history of violent crimes) who viciously attacked a inoccent white student. I'm not exactly sure I agree w/ charging them w/ attempted murder, but that's irrelevant IMHO. The focus should be on the crime they comitted FIRST,,,THEN once there is agreement on the crime, we can tackle the issue of them being charged for attempted murder. Bottom line, they're scumbag criminals that need to pay for acting like animals. Same goes for anyone who attacks another human being for no other reason than for the color of their skin. That's horseshit and needs to stop. It seems like it's happening everywhere now. It's become "the thing to do" for ignorant stupid fuck teenagers these days. I think it's pathetic.

For the record: Whenever I see Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton I run the other way. If they're supporting it, my general reflex is to assume they're up to no good and have no intention of resovling the issue, rather only to stir the shit and tug @ the heart strings of the weak for their own selfish satisfaction.

[Dj_Peace]

[quote=drlogic;1223760]well said TP...I'm with ya' there too!

The Jena6 guys are criminals (with a document history of violent crimes) who viciously attacked a inoccent white student. I'm not exactly sure I agree w/ charging them w/ attempted murder, but that's irrelevant IMHO. The focus should be on the crime they comitted FIRST,,,THEN once there is agreement on the crime, we can tackle the issue of them being charged for attempted murder. Bottom line, they're scumbag criminals that need to pay for acting like animals.

Doc...for the record two of the Jena 6 had records-juvenile records -the other four, none whatsoever. BTW, the white youth involved we do not know if any of them have records, however, it is interesting to note that the youth that brought the pistol grip shotgun TO SCHOOL did not get arrested or suspended or even detention - the youths that hung the nooses short suspension even though expulsion was recommended - the youths that beat up the black kid at the dance-no arrests-the gentlman that pulled the shotgun on the black kids at the convenience store -no arrests (however, the youth that wrestled the shotgun away from him WAS charged with theft) - I am only interested in equity and parity in dispensation of justice across the board. If these youths in the above referenced story attacked this kid for no other reason than his skin color, try them for a hate crime. But we cannot have it both ways-no hate crime charges for hanhing nooses on a WHITES ONLY Tree??? how f'ed up is that -the fact that the students had to ask if they could sit there is crazy in 2007-and the fact that until all of this shit storm the school administration saw no problem with it is even more disturbing. The truth is in America, jsutice is not equally distributed and there is no equal protection under the law for all of our citizens. Do you disagree with this?

[drlogic]

[quote=Dj_Peace;1223810]

Originally Posted by drlogic

well said TP...I'm with ya' there too!

The Jena6 guys are criminals (with a document history of violent crimes) who viciously attacked a inoccent white student. I'm not exactly sure I agree w/ charging them w/ attempted murder, but that's irrelevant IMHO. The focus should be on the crime they comitted FIRST,,,THEN once there is agreement on the crime, we can tackle the issue of them being charged for attempted murder. Bottom line, they're scumbag criminals that need to pay for acting like animals.

Doc...for the record two of the Jena 6 had records-juvenile records -the other four, none whatsoever.
- thanks. my mistake. I believe the one still in jail has a violent criminal record. As for whether it's minor records...i could give 3 fucks. kids can kill too. crime is crime, IMHO.

BTW, the white youth involved we do not know if any of them have records, however, it is interesting to note that the youth that brought the pistol grip shotgun TO SCHOOL did not get arrested or suspended or even detention
- And that's wrong. But has nothing to do w/ the crime comitted by these thugs. I'm staying focused on the actual crime of a violent assault. I will not allow myself to let the press gray the issue w/ other factors irrelevant to the violent act of attacking an innocet human being.

the youths that hung the nooses short suspension even though expulsion was recommended -
- I believe they were initally sent to an opportunity school and given 10 day suspsensions. Then the school board (or some higher up) allowed them back and changed the suspesion to 3 days.

the youths that beat up the black kid at the dance-no arrests-the gentlman that pulled the shotgun on the black kids at the convenience store -no arrests
-that's fucked up and wrong,,,but AGAIN, has nothing to do w/ the crime these kids comitted on this white student.

(however, the youth that wrestled the shotgun away from him WAS charged with theft)
- If true, Amazing! Pathetic! Shame on whoever is responsible for such injustice. I would like to see them on the unempolyment line.

I am only interested in equity and parity in dispensation of justice across the board. If these youths in the above referenced story attacked this kid for no other reason than his skin color, try them for a hate crime.
-Which they did. And I too hope to see them charged accordingly.

But we cannot have it both ways-no hate crime charges for hanhing nooses on a WHITES ONLY Tree??? how f'ed up is that -the fact that the students had to ask if they could sit there is crazy in 2007-and the fact that until all of this shit storm the school administration saw no problem with it is even more disturbing. The truth is in America, jsutice is not equally distributed and there is no equal protection under the law for all of our citizens. Do you disagree with this?

-Cant disagree anything in that last paragraph. I'm with you. Justice should be blind.

On another note, I get equally frustrated when I see politicians w/ a D next to their name get away w/ anything and everything while those w/ a R next to their name get indicted on phoney, pseudo-scandals in hopes to entrap them w/ purgery.

My main opinion on the Jena6 is that they need to pay for the crime of violently attacking an innocent human being. Anything else needs to be addressed seperately....Like that school board and those administrators who are a fucking joke. But that still doesn't excuse the criminal act of beating a human being unconscious. I don't agree w/ excusing a wrong by exposing other wrongs. I'm for accoutability. I don't care what Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton or how many people they get to protest. Still doesn't change the fact that those Jena6 are CRIMINIALS!!!! VIOLENT CRIMINIALS!!! They need to pay! (and so any others involved w/ hanging nooses or whatever else you say happened)