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Old 02-25-2004, 07:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Myself, pod, ryan and others have began talking about the latest political controversy over gay marriage in the junkie chat section....and I'd like to see what the rest of you have to say---if yo get a chance, go to the thread in there titled Politics and Marriage (or something like that....i forget)

It's interesting that last year Buh was on TV telling us we were going to war as we were all heading to SPace or whereever....that horrrible feeling....we almost felt guilty for going out to party when soldiers were abroad droppuing bombs...

did anyone of you see the speech he delivered yesterday? my god it was mind boggling---im speechless....

as young people i really think this year, it's clearly our civic duty, and necessary for maintaining clear civil rights in the US....for all of us to vote this year....please post your comments in the junkie chat section if you have a sec...
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Old 02-25-2004, 08:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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we almost felt guilty for going out to party when soldiers were abroad droppuing bombs...
going out (or not going out) isn't going to have much of an effect on global politics. if dancing the night away helped you cope with the war, don't feel guilty. during last year's wmc, i only went to the daily panel discussions, et cetera. several friends and family members were directly involved in iraq (actually, some of them are now in afghanistan), so i chose to skip the parties. it just felt like the right thing for me to do at the time.

frankly, the political news this year isn't a buzzkill for me. i plan to celebrate diversity with a vengeance.
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Old 02-25-2004, 09:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Myself, pod, ryan and others have began talking about the latest political controversy over gay marriage in the junkie chat section....and I'd like to see what the rest of you have to say---if yo get a chance, go to the thread in there titled Politics and Marriage (or something like that....i forget) *

It's interesting that last year Buh was on TV telling us we were going to war as we were all heading to SPace or whereever....that horrrible feeling....we almost felt guilty for going out to party when soldiers were abroad droppuing bombs...

did anyone of you see the speech he delivered yesterday? *my god it was mind boggling---im speechless....

as young people i really think this year, it's clearly our civic duty, and necessary for maintaining clear civil rights in the US....for all of us to vote this year....please post your comments in the junkie chat section if you have a sec...

do you realize you are in a tiny minority when it comes to same sex issues? Get over it, it will be knocked down, and marriage can exsit without some idiots who fuck each other in a parade in nyc ruining it.

Marriage is between a man and a women, sorry if you people don't like that, take the next flight to France or where ever they ruined marriage forever. If you think, the south and midwest would ever support gay marriage then you are nuts. It will 100% loose. California will be stopped and we can go on with our lives knowing we followed the rules of nature and religion.
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Old 02-25-2004, 09:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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did anyone of you see the speech he delivered yesterday? *my god it was mind boggling---im speechless....

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[glow=red,2,300]I did... and Bush made it his position VERY CLEAR by proposing AN AMENDMENT to define what marriage is AND ISN'T, at least his White House staffs' definition.

To suggest an amendment is pretty heavy stuff 'cause amendments don't happen often...if at all and they stand up FOREVER!!!![/glow]
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Old 02-25-2004, 10:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
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saleen, im curious to know if you are being honest or just trying to stir shit up. you have some validity there. the age long definition of marriage means "man" and "woman."

gays will just need to rename it. they will have to call it "gay union" or something.
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saleen, im curious to know if you are being honest or just trying to stir shit up. *you have some validity there. *the age long definition of marriage means "man" and "woman."

gays will just need to rename it. *they will have to call it "gay union" or something.

i'm serious..

I'm catholic and I belive in god and faith... Gays are not condeemed like some hard liners say, I really can't say whether god hates them or dislikes them, i for one don't have issues with gays, i have issues with their behavior and their stance that we should hand everything to them like normal people, but they forget they are NOT NORMAL! Gays can go to heaven and all that, but they need to understand to preserve the sanctity of marriage we must stop this..
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Not for nothing, but you guys go out to nightclubs, probably make free with women, and so on down the line, and you call yourself Catholic?

If you're gonna be of a religion, I'd think you would have to follow it's rules...no halfways about it.

It's why I am not associated with any religion. I can do whatever the hell I want and let the Gods go hang.
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Old 02-25-2004, 11:07 AM   #10 (permalink)
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gay marriage actually brings up a ton of questions about straight marriage and vice versa.

1. Do you want God to bless the unity of man and man or do want the State to recognize it? (seperation of church and state issues)
2. Who benefits from gay or straight marriage (if gay couples say they are married - to me it means they have made a lifelong commitment to each other). The state recognizing it only adds legal issues and tax benefits, etc.
3. When we talk about marriage being for straight people and gays can't have it are we reyling on the bible/torah/koran for guidance, and if so, are you going to pick and choose which rules you follow according to your tastes, i.e. gay marriage bad - straight sex without marriage ok, drinking, drugs etc. ok?

just some of the questions that come to mind......
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