Whats your take on this swift boat drama

[V. Barbarino]

I read all the arguements and articles and even the washingposts report that the head guy is lying etc.

For me it's simple

1. I don't understand vietnam
2. i will never understand vietnam
3. He went, thats all I care about
4. what he did there, whether smoking pot for 4 months or killing charlie for 4 months, I don't care, refer back to #1 and #2

for me it's a non issue... I don't care what him and bush did 25 years ago. I just hope if I ever run for office, they don't bring up shit I did or didn't do when i was young.

[LeVeL]

Saleen if you run for office, the media will always bring back all those things you said about the trancers. And about that fat girl that you banged on the alley.

[Apotheosis]

i think the fact that john mccain denounced these scumbags is pretty powerful. the guys in the commercial said they served with him, but all that means is that they were in vietnam at the same time. and the one doctor who said he treated kerry for a 1 cm pice of metal....his name isn't on any of kerry's medical records, and common sense: why would a battlefield doctor remember a wound like this, 30 years later? and remember the soldier whom it happened to? come on. it's bullsh*t.

[LeVeL]

Originally Posted by Apotheosis

i think the fact that john mccain denounced these scumbags is pretty powerful. the guys in the commercial said they served with him, but all that means is that they were in vietnam at the same time. and the one doctor who said he treated kerry for a 1 cm pice of metal....his name isn't on any of kerry's medical records, and common sense: why would a battlefield doctor remember a wound like this, 30 years later? and remember the soldier whom it happened to? come on. it's bullsh*t.

Yeah the more you hear about him serving vietnam the more of a lie his campaign has become. John Kerry is going to end up ruining his campaign in the long run because of these allegations cause the American people dont want another liar in office. This election will be determined by the war not John Kerry, if the war wouldn't be on right now Bush would be a shoe in to be reelected.

[endymion]

I could find a handful of friends-of-friends to say negative stuff about anybody here if I had enough money to find them and pay them. Especially if they already happened to lean toward whatever political objective I was aiming at.

As a Vote-No-On-Bush campaigner I'm pretty happy that this issue keeps coming up. Especially that doc who claims to have treated Kerry and who claims to have vivid memories of it even though there are no records and the wound was superficial. I'm happy about him bringing that up over and over because it naturally leads to you think about the records of Bush's military service. How he claims "I flew fighters" even though nobody remembers training him, there are no records of anybody training him, there are no military flight licenses on record, he doesn't show up in the service records for any aircraft anywhere, nobody remembers serving with him, and the only written records he can find to back up his story are dental exam records.

If I ran around in the forums telling people that I used to fly fighter jets for the National Guard and I couldn't produce even a flight license to prove it then you guys wouldn't stop laughing at me for months.

[MRMATAS2277]

many Vets think that Kerry is a liar...and they wont vote for him...what he did after Vietnam has also soured many Vets about Kerry...many things Kerry has said and his wounds that he received has made a lot of Vets raise an eyebrow...but his actions after he got back to the States pissed off many Vets...

[guyman1966]

Originally Posted by levelistic

And about that fat girl that you banged on the alley.

There were so many fat girls and so many alleys... you have to be more specific.

[LeVeL]

Originally Posted by MRMATAS2277

many Vets think that Kerry is a liar...and they wont vote for him...what he did after Vietnam has also soured many Vets about Kerry...many things Kerry has said and his wounds that he received has made a lot of Vets raise an eyebrow...but his actions after he got back to the States pissed off many Vets...

All this military stuff will only hurt him in the long run. I was watching C-Span a couple days ago and they had an interview showing John Kerry from 1972, right after he had come from Vietnam. Veterans back then claimed that John kerry was doing all that for he can get votes for him to get elected into Congress. because so many people were pissed off about the war that they wanted a change just like it is happening now. He just riding the war bandwagon all over again for he can get votes. Same startegy but in a higher stage. The more I talk about this the more I dont want to vote for him to tell you the truth.

[MRMATAS2277]

Originally Posted by levelistic

All this military stuff will only hurt him in the long run. I was watching C-Span a couple days ago and they had an interview showing John Kerry from 1972, right after he had come from Vietnam. Veterans back then claimed that John kerry was doing all that for he can get votes for him to get elected into Congress. because so many people were pissed off about the war that they wanted a change just like it is happening now. He just riding the war bandwagon all over again for he can get votes. Same startegy but in a higher stage. The more I talk about this the more I dont want to vote for him to tell you the truth.

well he has already been proven a liar...he went back and re-tracted a statement he made about him being in Cambodia Xmas day...

[LeVeL]

All politicians are liars in general, just some of them are harder to figure out but with John Kerry you can tell he has lied a lot over his time. I dont think this country needs another repulsive liar in office. If I want a liar for President then I would elect O.J. Simpson.