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Old 10-18-2007, 01:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Had a convo with a industry person about how I could take on LP and beat him. This person didn't agree with me.

Certainly you would need huge capital that you are willing to risk. But. LP is not smart. He just swims in a sea of idiots..Notice on the beach (Spin, Cameo etc) he didn't do so hot.. Why? Because he knows the operators of the beach clubs are smarter than him. (sans Kenny and Kal they are complete idiots)

To Take on Space and compete you need only 3 things:

1. 24 hour license
2. Huge Patio
3. Huge real main room

No one can name a single club that has ever duplicated these 3 things. Every club that failed didn't follow these 3 basic fundamental keys.

Examples:
Karu, no 24 hour license or patio
Nocturnal, decent patio, no main room
Twilo, main room, no patio
etc

My question is, with all the millions that have been spent trying to compete with him, how come no one ever has built a real competing club? This is not rocket science. And further proof LP swims in a sea of idiots is, that HE HAS S DONE IT TWICE ALREADY WITH THE SAME FUCKING FORMULA! Old Space and new Space followed all 3 principles to the T.

Nocturnal spent money on things that provide no value, such as waterfalls. All they had to do was get rid of the 2nd floor, make it one monster main room. Open up the patio, just make it a plain square box, with nothing on it, just bars on the outside and they would have been 1000000000% better off and spent millions less..

So yes, I could take on LP in a virtual internet cooljunkie kinda of way, but hey where the rubber meets the road is a different story but I know I'd fair better than the ass clowns that have come before me.
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Half the issue is, also, that the people that have tried to take him on have been trying to ape his formula.

In a recent interview with Pacha Magazine (I'd link it but Pacha Magazine is still stuck in the 20th...) he actually went out of his way to commend Pawn Shop for trying something original and not copying him.
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Had a convo with a industry person about how I could take on LP and beat him. This person didn't agree with me.

Certainly you would need huge capital that you are willing to risk. But. LP is not smart. He just swims in a sea of idiots..Notice on the beach (Spin, Cameo etc) he didn't do so hot.. Why? Because he knows the operators of the beach clubs are smarter than him. (sans Kenny and Kal they are complete idiots)

To Take on Space and compete you need only 3 things:

1. 24 hour license
2. Huge Patio
3. Huge real main room

No one can name a single club that has ever duplicated these 3 things. Every club that failed didn't follow these 3 basic fundamental keys.

Examples:
Karu, no 24 hour license or patio
Nocturnal, decent patio, no main room
Twilo, main room, no patio
etc

My question is, with all the millions that have been spent trying to compete with him, how come no one ever has built a real competing club? This is not rocket science. And further proof LP swims in a sea of idiots is, that HE HAS S DONE IT TWICE ALREADY WITH THE SAME FUCKING FORMULA! Old Space and new Space followed all 3 principles to the T.

Nocturnal spent money on things that provide no value, such as waterfalls. All they had to do was get rid of the 2nd floor, make it one monster main room. Open up the patio, just make it a plain square box, with nothing on it, just bars on the outside and they would have been 1000000000% better off and spent millions less..

So yes, I could take on LP in a virtual internet cooljunkie kinda of way, but hey where the rubber meets the road is a different story but I know I'd fair better than the ass clowns that have come before me.
After I got up off the floor from the fit of laughter this post brought on I actually had to re-read this. If being able to take on LP in "a virtual internet cooljunkie kinda of way" makes you pop a woody, more power to you. Just make sure you stick to the net because LP would cut off your tiny little balls, fry them in crisco and serve them to you for breakfast on your new patio. It'll be very romantic since you'll be the only ones there.
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Exclamation Re: Why LP and Space has never been defeated.

I expect to see a lot of armchair quarterbacking on this thread.
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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interesting, but i think there is more to it than just the three things you stated. i think one of the first things that make his club special is that he has made it a brand, and probably that he was the first pioneer on the block. overall the club has been very consistent and seems to follow a formula that works but at the same time is always evolving.
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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POD!!! for the love of God....I beg of you....please,please,please bring back the rolly eyes!
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POD!!! for the love of God....I beg of you....please,please,please bring back the rolly eyes!
I'm not an emoticon sort of guy but I'm with Swank on this one. Either that or someone has to cut off Barbarino's fingers.
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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To Take on Space and compete you need only 3 things:

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2. Huge Patio
3. Huge real main room
Yep, totally agree, except you left off the big item, a buttfuckingassload of advertising dollars.

However, if, according to your predictions, EDM is dead, could it still be done? Space was really built on the upswing of EDM and the drug scene. Nowaday, I do not think you have that same momentum. So, you would need to do Rock or Hip-Hop, or something else. Do you think that could be done?
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Yep, totally agree, except you left off the big item, a buttfuckingassload of advertising dollars.

However, if, according to your predictions, EDM is dead, could it still be done? Space was really built on the upswing of EDM and the drug scene. Nowaday, I do not think you have that same momentum. So, you would need to do Rock or Hip-Hop, or something else. Do you think that could be done?
Coach.....he obviously would do Rock. Please do your homework and re-read all of his prior posts before commenting.
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I expect to see a lot of armchair quarterbacking on this thread.
In this forum? Nooooooooo <-----insert eye rolling emoticon here
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